i'm far from an expert on this but wikipedia claims solaris containers/zones were circa 2005. i also kinda remember hearing about them at the time. rfork and plan9 namespaces predated me by far and according to this (doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_editi…) they were published around 1993. :). of course the scope of isolation that they offer is different. and you can argue that solaris was a "production system". Plan9 just seems to have tried to address the problem in its design.
LXC is just the linux container thing - it's a thing docker wraps
Basically LXC is jails to docker's iocage if you know what that is (you being a BSD person instead of a Linux person I assume the different knowledge base is there, but I dunno)
I've had a jails lesson... but container-y things are not anything I get to play with duckduck set me right. Sounds like you two have been having fun, that's cool stuff to learn about!
@pamela@silverwizard @pamela I thought lxc was purely userspace stuff? don't it and nspawn and docker and etc directly use the various kernel features under the hood?
@silverwizard @pamela :flan_butterfly: @Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: I've only just kind of decided I want to learn more but I keep asking questions like "how does wifi work" and then we end up talking for like 3hrs.... and I keep doing that... it has been fun tho, and hopefully I'll actually know some stuff soon. I'm appreciative I get this chance to learn...
@firefly_lightning @roboneko@bae.st @silverwizard that's what Kurt and I did! He's especially great at walking through how stuff developed over time. Such an excellent way to learn, hearing how stuff works combined with the bits that the other person finds interesting and wants to share
@pamela :flan_butterfly: @silverwizard oh, that's awesome! In your posts you seem to know a lot too, and it's cool to see someone else who has done the same thing as we're starting to do xD
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I do containers under protest only, and mostly spawn VMs and chroot processes - Becky just asked the question "what is docker"
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