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I can understand if new admins don't know that Soapbox is bigotware and they'll be defederated nearly instantly for running it...

but Soapbox is bigotware and you'll be defederated almost instantly for running it

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Drazi Crendraven
Drazi Crendraven  
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What signs should I look for to tell if an instance is running it?
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@drazisil it says something like "This instance is running Soapbox-FE"
@Drazi Crendraven
Cenobyte :abunhdowohop:
Cenobyte :abunhdowohop:  
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I don’t know anything about this soapbox..but i do trust you. What is it?
🏳️‍🌈💖💜💙 post-american JAFA
🏳️‍🌈💖💜💙 post-american JAFA  
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@cenobyte also curious about this, couldn’t find the info on a Google search. Tho I did see some purposely innocuous language “puts power in the hands of the people” etc
@Cenobyte :abunhdowohop:
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@postamericankiwi @cenobyte it's an alternative frontend, commonly used on Pleroma or Akkoma instances, written by a raging transphobe
@Cenobyte :abunhdowohop: @🏳️‍🌈💖💜💙 post-american JAFA
Cenobyte :abunhdowohop:
Cenobyte :abunhdowohop:  
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@postamericankiwi Ugh, thanks for the info. I'd never support that :( (or run it)
@🏳️‍🌈💖💜💙 post-american JAFA
silverwizard
silverwizard  
Just out of curiosity, does it have actual anti features? Alex Gleason is a hell of a red flag though
silverwizard
silverwizard  
ok, that's reasonable. I definitely (personally) wouldn't punish an admin for using it, especially in this wave of new people, but legit.

Was worried there was actual malicious software
Alexander
Alexander  
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Any why an instance running a frontend which doesn't (shouldn't at least) affect interaction with other instances would get banned for it?
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@alex Soapbox? Yes definitely.
@Alexander
Alexander
Alexander  
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The question was "why" :)

I mean I don't even know which frontend other instances use because I don't go to them.
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@alex because someone who’s willing to run software written by a transphobe that runs the major transphobe instance is not the sort of person that many people want to associate with
@Alexander
Alexander
Alexander  
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Well, that's weirdly strange.

Free software is free software, things people use it for is what matters.
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@alex yeah weird that associating with bigots gets you marked as a bigot huh
@Alexander
Alexander
Alexander  
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No, it is weird that when you use something absolutely neutral by its nature some people see it as association with things completely unrelated to you - just because someone else touched the same thing.

In fact I tend to think that such approach doesn't only makes everyone's lives harder but also empowers bad actors by implying their significance.

Just my opinion of course.
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@alex you do know that you don't have to be completely wrong, *and* you don't have to be completely wrong in my mentions too? It's true!

You can learn to not have excruciatingly bad takes, and learn to not bother people on the internet with your excruciatingly bad takes.
@Alexander
Alexander
Alexander  
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To each their own I suppose :)
Joan Mastodon
Joan Mastodon  
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good to know, was in the process of setting up an instance w/ soapbox 😅

Any non-bigotware alternatives? Looking for something with a user-friendly interface (most instance members have limited tech know-how)
v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist
v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist  
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i don't know what it is but thanks for the heads up
v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist
v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist  
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also that was a dead serious comment, I am a new server admin as of 14 days ago and basically all I have done is register as an LLC, install 3.52, get insurance, set up DMCA concern handling, upgrade to v4, and let 'er rip. Haven't sussed out the whole ecosystem by a long shot, this is a year-or-more long experiment for me. I've run web servers of some kind since the late 90s but I've never run something that allowed user content unless you count a warez FTP in 1997
Aurynn Shaw
Aurynn Shaw  
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@voxnihilist It's an alternative frontend usually used on Pleroma that looks nice but it's made by a raging transphobe (who also runs the major transphobe instance, spinster), so anyone using it gets the Bigot By Association flag real quick
@v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist
v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist
v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist  
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noted, thanks! I have a lot to learn about this ecosystem.
Sergio
Sergio  
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Wow it took me a while to notice that is based on the Gab code, maybe you could have given further explanation.
Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer:
Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer:  
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I had been considering forking it for my own project. Bad idea?
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