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I can understand if new admins don't know that Soapbox is bigotware and they'll be defederated nearly instantly for running it...

but Soapbox is bigotware and you'll be defederated almost instantly for running it

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in reply to Aurynn Shaw

Just out of curiosity, does it have actual anti features? Alex Gleason is a hell of a red flag though
in reply to Aurynn Shaw

ok, that's reasonable. I definitely (personally) wouldn't punish an admin for using it, especially in this wave of new people, but legit.

Was worried there was actual malicious software

in reply to Aurynn Shaw

Any why an instance running a frontend which doesn't (shouldn't at least) affect interaction with other instances would get banned for it?
in reply to Aurynn Shaw

The question was "why" :)

I mean I don't even know which frontend other instances use because I don't go to them.

in reply to Alexander

@alex because someone who’s willing to run software written by a transphobe that runs the major transphobe instance is not the sort of person that many people want to associate with
in reply to Aurynn Shaw

Well, that's weirdly strange.

Free software is free software, things people use it for is what matters.

in reply to Alexander

@alex yeah weird that associating with bigots gets you marked as a bigot huh
in reply to Aurynn Shaw

No, it is weird that when you use something absolutely neutral by its nature some people see it as association with things completely unrelated to you - just because someone else touched the same thing.

In fact I tend to think that such approach doesn't only makes everyone's lives harder but also empowers bad actors by implying their significance.

Just my opinion of course.

in reply to Alexander

@alex you do know that you don't have to be completely wrong, *and* you don't have to be completely wrong in my mentions too? It's true!

You can learn to not have excruciatingly bad takes, and learn to not bother people on the internet with your excruciatingly bad takes.

in reply to Aurynn Shaw

good to know, was in the process of setting up an instance w/ soapbox 😅

Any non-bigotware alternatives? Looking for something with a user-friendly interface (most instance members have limited tech know-how)

in reply to Aurynn Shaw

also that was a dead serious comment, I am a new server admin as of 14 days ago and basically all I have done is register as an LLC, install 3.52, get insurance, set up DMCA concern handling, upgrade to v4, and let 'er rip. Haven't sussed out the whole ecosystem by a long shot, this is a year-or-more long experiment for me. I've run web servers of some kind since the late 90s but I've never run something that allowed user content unless you count a warez FTP in 1997
in reply to v̶̦͍͛ó̵̝͛x̴̰̬̀ ̴͈͂n̸̔ihilist

@voxnihilist It's an alternative frontend usually used on Pleroma that looks nice but it's made by a raging transphobe (who also runs the major transphobe instance, spinster), so anyone using it gets the Bigot By Association flag real quick
in reply to Aurynn Shaw

Wow it took me a while to notice that is based on the Gab code, maybe you could have given further explanation.
in reply to Aurynn Shaw

I had been considering forking it for my own project. Bad idea?