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"Should we privatize this thing?"

And

"Should we give control over this thing to an unelected rich person who has no reason to act in the public good?"

Are exactly the same question

in reply to The research fairy

"But corporate owned things are more efficient!" - Efficient in what manner, and for whom?

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in reply to Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑

@WhyNotZoidberg efficient is an anti goal in infrastructure and directly opposed to resilience/redundancy. It needs to be effective, not efficient.
in reply to The research fairy

But someone wrote something famous called Tragedy of the Commons based on literally nothing but vibes and that implied that the government shouldn't be in charge of stuff! Old random British guy vibes rules clearly state...
in reply to The research fairy

"ok you see the free market produces better solutions because of competition, so that's why we're giving an exclusive contract for providing this public service to a single company"

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in reply to The research fairy

Something we often do in land use regulation is assume bad faith, the worst actor. What is the worst case? For privatization this strikes me as a fantastic approach given the track record.
in reply to The research fairy

Ah, yes. This and also throwing public services under the bus by not funding them nearly enough is usually the case.
in reply to The research fairy

"Is funding this thing with philanthropy okay?"

And

"Should we give control over this thing to an unelected rich person who has no reason to act in the public good?"

Are exactly the same question

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in reply to The research fairy

I don't hate the rich because I'm jealous and wish I had that kind of money

I legitimately don't

I hate the rich because no one should ever have that kind of power

And they should feel that hatred from everyone

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in reply to The research fairy

It is true nobody asked Florian to interact.

But it is also true that I appreciate his (@flbact) toot, even if nobody asked for it, think it a thoughtful and valid contribution, and am thankful for it.

@researchfairy

in reply to Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

@dj3ei @flbact It's an asinine, bad faith reading and if you actually read my thread before responding you'd understand why it's unwelcome and unhelpful

Please get out of my mentions

in reply to The research fairy

I did read your thread. I happen to oppose privatizing stuff. I also happen to not think it constructive to hate individual people. E.g., killing those people I don't think would help a lot. (To hate someone is equivalent to denying that person the right to exist.)

Also, if you don't want to interact with people then don't interact with people.

@researchfairy @flbact

in reply to Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

@dj3ei @flbact I asked you explicitly and also implicitly here: scholar.social/@researchfairy/…

Please stop messaging me, I'm not interested


Btw, if you can't tell the difference between:

"I hate oppression and those who bring about extreme injustice and hurtful power differentials"

And

"I hate a marginalized or minority group"

Don't interact, please


in reply to The research fairy

Btw, if you can't tell the difference between:

"I hate oppression and those who bring about extreme injustice and hurtful power differentials"

And

"I hate a marginalized or minority group"

Don't interact, please

in reply to The research fairy

the whole reason people worship the rich is that they believe they "made good choices" yet they'll turn around and defend them as if it's a protected identity characteristic that jeff bezos et al wake up every day and consciously decide not to give away all their money and keep making the world a worse place
in reply to The research fairy

I hate the rich because they universally fall under the illusion that it’s solely their own brilliance and work that got them to where they are. The reality that it’s the work of those that came before them, the efforts of those who’ve helped them over the years, and a big splash of good fortune that got them there tends to fade to nothing the richer they get. This happens with alarming consistency.
in reply to The research fairy

Wikipedia faced this problem in its early days - it got funding from various organizations, who in turn got seats on the board. The negative community response was why they made a hard turn towards soliciting small donations from many people.

Is it possible for philanthropy not to involve control?

in reply to Globaltom

@Globaltom Idk if I would call a broadly supported grassroots thing "philanthropy"
in reply to The research fairy

@peternlewis Also the same question: Should unelected pressure groups control this thing via officials claiming to act in "the public good"?

There's no real “public”—just individuals with different and conflicting aims. Concepts like the “common good” or “public interest” are excuses to sacrifice others' interests and rights.

#Privatization of force and #nationalization / #municipalization of property are both civil war. The latter is only slower.