Subscribe for more!Cartman from South Park singing Noo. No-No-N-No-No, No-No-N-No-Nono no no non no no no non no no nononoI know this is unlike my other vide...
a week? As in...total? Yeah, that would not fly at any of the places I have punched a clock. Are you sure it is a week for maternity, that you are not looking at the bereavement column?
8 weeks paid paternity at my current employer and my wife and I love it. Just had our second baby and Iβm off right now π. 0 weeks at anywhere else Iβve been. 1 week maternity is a slap in the face.
At my last job, one week was paid for dads, next week was half paid, and everything after that was on PTO. My first spent a long time in the ICU and I was fortunate enough to have a great manager that went to bat for me.
Can't remember what my current job's plan is, but I know it's 50x better.
By law, 6 weeks before (expected) birth, 8 weeks after, at full pay. Then up to 14 months at 2/3rd salary distributed between both parents (father has to take at least two months).
somehow that strikes me as worse than none. None means you're obvious, discriminating against parents in general and mother's in particular, or you think some other type of leave you offer covers it. (Which I doubt, but won't rule out without seeing that policy.) A week says you think you thought about it and still think that's enough.
It's government mandated here in NZ. The primary caregiver gets 26 weeks paid, and an additional 26 weeks unpaid (my employer just bumped the paid leave portion to 38 weeks). The secondary caregiver gets 2 weeks paid, and can take up to 52 weeks unpaid. The primary caregiver can also give some of their parental leave to the secondary caregiver.
Not at all! for paternity that's pretty low, but for maturity I'm not sure how that would work. What if I had someone had a complicated birth that kept them in hospital for the week they had off. Do they just slide back into work on the Monday after? What happens to the baby in this situation?
Here in NZ the law mandates 14 weeks paid leave, and the company must hold your job so you can return to it after 12 months, they canβt fire you or make you redundant during that time (effectively 38 weeks unpaid leave)
Iβm having flashbacks to when I was consulting, flashbacks of the first time I had analyst who had a baby. HR told us both the company had 12-weeks maternity leave. She had the baby. My team celebrated. HR promptly took her off the payroll and put her on public assistance (FMLA). So this super talented person finds herself with practically no income as a brand new mom.
@jwgoerlich For us it wasn't the full 12 weeks but had a similar experience and it was a true lesson that HR is here to help the company, NOT the employees. π€¬
The last place where that was relevant to me had an "unlimited" pto policy that also covered parental leave. I took four weeks and my manager who had a kid around the same time took 1 week. He made it clear that he was sure one week was plenty.
my kids are 11 and 9 now, but when my son was born, I think my wife got 12 weeks and I got 3. When our daughter was born, my wife wasn't working, and I got 3 weeks. I added an extra week of PTO both times. Both my kids went through the NICU, so I needed the extra time. It was a wild ride. Our insurance back then was amazing, I think it cost us a total of $200 in copays for each kid, NICU included.
Thank God we are done with having kids because now that I'm self employed, if I don't work, I don't get paid, and our marketplace health plan doesn't cover much of anything.
speaking as one who had four kids, two in college/grad school and two while self employed and using marketplace insurance, it definitely comes with a lot of hard compromises. Our first kiddo was while my wife had great insurance through her work, and due to some clever supplemental insurance usage she actually got paid to have the baby, and had about 2~months of maternity leave. I really had no leave as a student working at a teen treatment center, but they tried to be as supportive as they could. There was no real time off for the 2nd kiddo for me; again I was in grad school. And working for myself for the last two meant I had better flexibility during the days but still I don't think I took off more than a week or two each time... I wish we lived in a system that supported families better, and stopped the stupidity of for-profit greedy healthcare.
16 weeks for the birth parent, and also 6 or 8 wks for each parent, depending on where they live San Francisco has the extra 2) . This is for people in the US.
We have a really good parental leave policy that applies to both parents. A week of parental leave is absurd. Might as well not offer the benefit at all.
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NO NO NO. NO NO. NO. NO NO. NO.
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Hell no
Adam Shostack
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in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • •@Whitney Champion πͺ I took 7 months for both kids - both because I wanted to return the first day back in January.
The felt like a solid minumum
dingusxmcgee
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in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •18 weeks at my current place; can be broken up as needed across the first year.
When my son was born, I took my one week of paternity leave and one week of saved up vacation, and got dinged for it on my annual review.
One week of *maternity* leave is beyond unacceptable -- it's abusive to both mother and baby. The exec team should be ashamed.
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A single week of parental leave is one of the most depressing things I've ever heard.
Major Hayden π€
in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •At my last job, one week was paid for dads, next week was half paid, and everything after that was on PTO. My first spent a long time in the ICU and I was fortunate enough to have a great manager that went to bat for me.
Can't remember what my current job's plan is, but I know it's 50x better.
Graham Sutherland / Polynomial
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in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •By law, 6 weeks before (expected) birth, 8 weeks after, at full pay. Then up to 14 months at 2/3rd salary distributed between both parents (father has to take at least two months).
A week is ridiculous.
Guillaume Ross
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in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •I feel very fortunate that my state agrees with me, too, and mandates 8 weeks.
Andrew C. Dingman
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in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •thatβs ridiculous.
Here in NZ the law mandates 14 weeks paid leave, and the company must hold your job so you can return to it after 12 months, they canβt fire you or make you redundant during that time (effectively 38 weeks unpaid leave)
J Wolfgang Goerlich
in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •Iβm having flashbacks to when I was consulting, flashbacks of the first time I had analyst who had a baby. HR told us both the company had 12-weeks maternity leave. She had the baby. My team celebrated. HR promptly took her off the payroll and put her on public assistance (FMLA). So this super talented person finds herself with practically no income as a brand new mom.
Anger doesnβt begin to explain my response.
NoTheOtherNick
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in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •my kids are 11 and 9 now, but when my son was born, I think my wife got 12 weeks and I got 3. When our daughter was born, my wife wasn't working, and I got 3 weeks. I added an extra week of PTO both times. Both my kids went through the NICU, so I needed the extra time. It was a wild ride. Our insurance back then was amazing, I think it cost us a total of $200 in copays for each kid, NICU included.
Thank God we are done with having kids because now that I'm self employed, if I don't work, I don't get paid, and our marketplace health plan doesn't cover much of anything.
Accidental CISO
in reply to Accidental CISO • • •Michael Olsen
in reply to Accidental CISO • • •I wish we lived in a system that supported families better, and stopped the stupidity of for-profit greedy healthcare.
Frank Barton
in reply to Whitney Champion πͺ • • •um... NO... a week is NO WHERE NEAR enough!!!!
Now... that said, the policy here is "FMLA... concurrent with banked PTO and short term disability"
Will
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