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Zscaler has a hard dependency on systemd on linux

This causes so many issues, any minor change in modules and defaults causes my user's computers to lock up and completely lose internet. A basic local vpn (which is all zscaler is) is trivial to implement without systemd.

By depending on systemd, they are making my life worse as an admin, for no gain.

I don't get the systemd cult.

furicle
furicle  
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I don't get how that's systemd fault? It doesn't lock up systems....
silverwizard
silverwizard  
@furicle they are improperly using networking. They are using a series of different tools to create the network pipeline, rather than a traditional route change. A network tunnel *shouldn't need* to touch system internals and break the network - it should just make a tunnel.
@furicle
furicle
furicle  
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it's running as a service or daemon right? So you need a system that controls your daemons....

Like a firewall, or any other service.

How's the tunnel know when to come up if something doesn't tell it?

silverwizard
silverwizard  
@furicle what? What do you mean?! it's just a tunnel. Use a sensible init system
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