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“Don’t talk to me before my coffee” isn’t really about the coffee. It’s more of a short hand for “hey, I’m still waking up — give me a little time to be in my own head and mentally prepare for my day before you dump your shit on me”
in reply to calcifer

Related: I hear people saying stuff like “if you say you can’t function without your coffee, it’s normal, but if you said whiskey that would be a problem” as a way of suggesting that coffee is a Problem

Setting aside the fact that people aren’t destroying their lives and alienating their families over caffeine, that’s just a weird framing

My partner can’t function without her meds. Y’all gonna demonize the meds rather than the disability they address?

in reply to calcifer

Long

I mean . . . Caffeine being normalized in a context of many different stimulants being *not* normal is pretty profoundly weird, especially when you consider some of its effects are what people warn about regarding different drugs (e.g. induces a dependency).

Of course, I say it all as somebody who deliberately weaned himself off of caffeine, only to eventually need a different drug entirely to start his day. I do not mind my trade-off, and I also wish it was one of many which folks could be informed to make, instead of caffeine simply being a socially-mandated default.

in reply to Taz🔜🎂 11-20

re: Long
@OchotonidKnight people treating a mild chemical dependency (seriously: the withdrawal symptoms are short, minor, and entirely navigable) the same as an actual addiction is weird. People moralizing about either is weird.
in reply to calcifer

I thought the problem wasn't the coffee, but that capitalism demanded so much time that folks don't have enough time to rest, and have to use coffee instead
in reply to Anke

@Anke There is some evidence, it’s kind of mixed, that coffee and caffeine can help with autistic and ADHD emotional regulation and focus issues. Now anecdotes are not evidence. But based on the better part of 40 years of observing myself I believe it does work for some at least. And by some I mean me.
@Anke