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one thing i see a lot when class-reductionist dirtbag ableist leftists try to present disabled people (usually women) as luxuriating, lazy, wilfully home-staying parasites*, is that they focus on the idea of us relying on underpaid service/delivery workers. but like, yous get your groceries in-person from the stores staffed by the same underpaid workers?

*note that this is exactly the same attitude the UK Conservative party has towards disabled people, and is the impetus behind Austerity

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alex
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the point these ableists make is never "so the service workers should be paid more" or "infrastructure should be better", it's that those workers suddenly take on the role of "servants" for a luxuried class of private bosses (the disabled???) ... but only in that sole context where their plight can be used as a cudgel to punish disabled people and disabled people only. this is just anti-solidarity conservative rhetoric???
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<heavy sarcasm> good news. the food supply chain is inherently unproblematic and unexploitative until the food needs to be delivered from the store to a disabled person's house, at which point the supply chain becomes unjustifiably unethical and exploitative </heavy sarcasm>
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(sees a worker moving some prepared food) oi where are you going with that. you're not taking it to a disabled person's house are you? oh you're taking it to a restaurant to serve to avery edison? oh that's ok then.
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(luminary poster of Just Be Normal twitter voice): unlike you disableds, i obtain my food without relying on underpaid service workers. that's right: at a restaurant. or directly from a farm.
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silverwizard
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@alex I think about this so much - because seriously if grocery stores were replaced by delivery, everyone would probably be happier, and it would be better for the environment (and the delivery workers would be just so explicitly less sad)

Pretending that the issue is people who need delivery is always bonkers.

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Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK
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I know a few people who work in the supermarket warehouse picking the groceries and others who drive the vans; its not *that* bad a job and possibly less high pressure than Amazon deliveries. Grocery deliveries have been a thing in Britain for decades - there's the milko that many might remember, and other groceries were ordered via local shops and delivered on bicycles and vans until the 1970s (when supermarkets started to take over)
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@Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK @alex the problem is the number of people who think that a post-revolution world is the same as this one, rather than different.

I do not envision retail workers

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@vfrmedia @silverwizard
It was a normal thing in the U.S. once upon a time to have groceries delivered. I mean, a decade or two before I was born and prior to supermarkets chains *really*, taking off but still...
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@ms_xenophora 🐚 @Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK @alex My grandfather delivered groceries all throughout highschool in order to help his family survive! It seems convenient (but let's not have children be forced to flunk out of school to do it)
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@silverwizard @xenophora
Over here most deliveries require motor vehicles - normally a panel van/small lorry with < 3500 kg gross weight) - so its minimum age 18, 1 year driving experience and not more than 3-6 points (demerit points for traffic violations).

UK leaving age for education is now 18 (a 16-18 year old can leave high school and go to full time work but their job must have an element of further education such as part time college)

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Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK
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@silverwizard @xenophora
UK driving age is still lower than rest of Europe (17), but the insurers generally won't encourage younger people doing commercial driving (some will only insure drivers >21 years old)
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gotta love the arbitrary purity line that reaches as far as is convenient for the advocate.

Truly these are the same people that think milk comes from the supermarket not a cow.

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