“You can find us anywhere you get your podcasts.”
I *adore* this phrase, because it has been like two whole-ass decades and not one single venture capital darling has managed to unseat plain RSS as the distribution method for podcasts. Not one. (And they have really tried!)
Podcasts are just out there, like air. You don’t go to one place to get them; you get them from everywhere and anywhere. You can choose how you want to engage with them and manage them and it is legitimately heartwarming that nothing has ever gotten in the way of that being a fundamental fact.
This is the best of what the web is. It will never have a stock ticker or even a marketing scheme. Most people don’t even know it is there. But it endures (past the many, many attempts by squillionaire corporates to kill it) because of its absolute unshakable utility.
My suggestion: any time you hear “anywhere you get your podcasts”, send a little thanks to RSS for keeping the real web alive.
#RSS #Podcasts #ProtocolsNotProducts
I *adore* this phrase, because it has been like two whole-ass decades and not one single venture capital darling has managed to unseat plain RSS as the distribution method for podcasts. Not one. (And they have really tried!)
Podcasts are just out there, like air. You don’t go to one place to get them; you get them from everywhere and anywhere. You can choose how you want to engage with them and manage them and it is legitimately heartwarming that nothing has ever gotten in the way of that being a fundamental fact.
This is the best of what the web is. It will never have a stock ticker or even a marketing scheme. Most people don’t even know it is there. But it endures (past the many, many attempts by squillionaire corporates to kill it) because of its absolute unshakable utility.
My suggestion: any time you hear “anywhere you get your podcasts”, send a little thanks to RSS for keeping the real web alive.
#RSS #Podcasts #ProtocolsNotProducts
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Carsten Raddatz
•Simon Elvery
•Petra van Cronenburg
•calcifer :nes_fire:
•I’m not a fan of Spotify for doing it, but I can hardly blame a Podcaster for finding the offer compelling
calcifer :nes_fire:
•I can’t blame someone for looking at Spotify’s offer and concluding it might be easier to spend time on the parts they’re passionate about if they have a more reliable income and less business management to do. But go ahead and be angry at the people doing the hard work and not the big corporation exploiting them. You do you.
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•Mark Gardner
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Ken Fallon (PA7KEN, G5KEN)
•Mark Gardner
•Ken Fallon (PA7KEN, G5KEN)
•True. True, but keep in mind (IAMAL) that without specifying your copyright as #CreativeCommons, it is by default "ⓒ all rights reserved". You could argue that it's illegal to even download it.
Mark Gardner
•I’m also not a lawyer and I don’t know what jurisdiction you’re in, so I’ll leave it at that to get you started if you want to learn more.
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN, G5KEN)
•Your typical news site, photo sharing sites, video, and music streaming sites apply techniques such as drm, watermarking and tracking to prevent redistribution. The podcast sites would much prefer you to "stream" rather than download, much like the video sites are doing.
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Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Ken Fallon (PA7KEN, G5KEN)
•The fact that RSS historically provided the ability to download and transfer it to a media playing device (think iPods), is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to providing online media.
The unfortunate state of affairs is that in the majority of the world, all works are automatically copyrighted and it is illegal to download or distribute them without explicit permission.
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Ken Fallon (PA7KEN, G5KEN)
•That permission is to be found in each of the sites terms and conditions page, or in the terms and conditions you agree to when opening an account. This means that as a listener you have an individual contractual relationship with each of the podcasts you listen to.
By licensing your podcast as #CreativeCommons you have a clear understanding of what that relationship is.
Mark Gardner
•Temporary copies
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•Cadu Silva :blobBone_pumpkin:
•and also today you have things like Castopod that lets you host and manage your own podcast, making it ready for RSS and to publish at services like Apple and Google Podcasts.
Castopod is also part of the fediverse so you can follow your favorite podcasts via Mastodon and the like.
I love when a podcast isn't restricted to a platform like Spotify, it must be free for audiences to choose where to consume it.
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Trolli Schmittlauch 🦥
•While there is of course no single source for *all* podcast, each podcast indeed has this definite source: Its feed and the files linked to it, under a certain URI and domain. This feed is then often fed into directories like iTunes or even not-really-podcast platforms like Sp*tify.
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Trolli Schmittlauch 🦥
•Saying “Wherever you get your podcasts” actually stops mentioning that single source. More and more often there are no fancy websites at that source; in contrast people are just told to rely on their intermediary of choice (directory) to even discover that podcast source.
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AC Nelson
•@adamshostack
clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛
•attacus
•Like many long-running projects, there are a lot of people who deserve the credit for RSS being what it is, including the amazing Aaron Swartz.
Most relevantly for podcasting, at the turn of the millennium Dave Winer released an update to RSS that added support for multimedia to be included in feeds, and gave the example of using it for audio. This is the technical mechanism that led to the rise of podcasting and is still what fuels it today.
RSS is how your podcast-listening app of choice (yes, even Spotify, Stitcher, and Apple Music) knows that the podcast exists and when new episodes are published, no matter where they are hosted. It is what enables syndication and listener choice. (If it isn’t syndicated, it technically isn’t a podcast! That said, technical definitions aren’t social definitions, and many things fall under the colloquial umbrella, so use “podcast” however you like. Audio is such a great medium regardless of what is under the hood.)
#RSS #podcasts
attacus
•Facebook and Twitter used to support it, but have done their best to kill that support in favour of forcing people to visit their sites directly for content. Many people still lament the deprecation of Google Reader because it was such a good and popular place for curating feeds of syndicated content, and its ending was a big blow for public awareness of RSS as tech corps shifted to monetised platforms.
But RSS is still what fuels podcasting! It has survived so much, especially the post-GFC pivot to centralised platforms, and the fact that it is still driving podcasting at a fundamental level is a miracle and a joy.
In the current era of rapid change and renewed excitement for a human-centred, community-powered web, I hope to see it celebrated, supported, and embraced again in more contexts. Don’t be afraid to believe it can still happen.
#RSS #podcasts
Mark Bramhill
•Bob Jonkman
•@attacus
Mark Bramhill
•Bob Jonkman
•@attacus @overcastfm
mytwobits01
•I'm not arguing the utility of RSS. Just saying it doesn't cover all the bases of where users are coming from.
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•Unfortunately that disqualifies 95% of the podcasts I enjoy from being "good podcasts".
It's just one stinking HTML element. But people don't do it. Many don't even facilitate finding it on the web pages and you have to use the podcast search facility and hope someone else found it.
David
•clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛
•silverwizard
Not having a single method, single location, or single app *is* the value
And trying to explain allvof RSS and podcast signoff, which is talking to people who are already listening, is ridiculous