WP Engine does not contribute enough to the open source code they're making hundreds of millions of dollars a year on, and it's time for open source to fight back. He should've talked to a lawyer before making statements that WPEngine may call βslanderousβ, but the fact he even offered a 300k USD severance package to any employee wanting to leave WordPress.com, because things could get more stressful in the coming time, is wild. What boss does that? It's very nice and thoughtful of the people who work under him.
I can't really hate the guy for speaking what we're all thinking.
There are no winners in war. Fireship described both sides as βthe petty megalomaniac CEO, who is willing to burn down his entire community to prove a pointβ (Automattic/Mullenweg) VS. βthe parasitic freeloading private equity firm, who's only guiding principle is financial gainβ (SilverLake/WPEngine).
...and you know what? I can understand wanting to prove a point
@Erik Uden π₯₯π΄π Mullenweg's flaw is that he's being an egotistical maniac and showing all the flaws in the system he built. Instead of rallying a community, he's burning it down. And it *sucks*. With any self reflection he would be the uncomplicated hero.
Wordpress chose their license. They donβt get to just change the rules without warning. The license didnβt say βfree until you make $x/ARRβ or βfree if you provide x hours/devs/$ in returnβ. It said free. This kind of bait and switch bullshit hurts all of us in FOSS, as far as Iβm concerned.
@snipe Licenses either mean things or they donβt. Matt made a choice, and now heβs just being a giant pissbaby that someone else is taking a piece of his 400 million dollar pie.
@snipe βShouldβ vs βobligated to or else Iβll sue the shit out of youβ are very different things. Iβve been in FOSS for 30 years. This is not how itβs done, nor how it should be done, and his bullshit hurts all of us
@snipe Heβs not kinda right. Not even 1% right. Heβs 100% wrong, and every single thing he has written since this blowout happened is his own fault. The elders tried to talk him down, he refused to listen.
As a FOSS maintainer, what I hope, what I want, and what I expect are usually wildly different things. I still wonβt change the yarns out from under you
Erik Uden π
in reply to Erik Uden π • • •WP Engine does not contribute enough to the open source code they're making hundreds of millions of dollars a year on, and it's time for open source to fight back. He should've talked to a lawyer before making statements that WPEngine may call βslanderousβ, but the fact he even offered a 300k USD severance package to any employee wanting to leave WordPress.com, because things could get more stressful in the coming time, is wild. What boss does that? It's very nice and thoughtful of the people who work under him.
I can't really hate the guy for speaking what we're all thinking.
Erik Uden π
in reply to Erik Uden π • • •There are no winners in war. Fireship described both sides as βthe petty megalomaniac CEO, who is willing to burn down his entire community to prove a pointβ (Automattic/Mullenweg) VS. βthe parasitic freeloading private equity firm, who's only guiding principle is financial gainβ (SilverLake/WPEngine).
...and you know what? I can understand wanting to prove a point
silverwizard
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in reply to Erik Uden π • • •@snipe Heβs not kinda right. Not even 1% right. Heβs 100% wrong, and every single thing he has written since this blowout happened is his own fault. The elders tried to talk him down, he refused to listen.
As a FOSS maintainer, what I hope, what I want, and what I expect are usually wildly different things. I still wonβt change the yarns out from under you