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Current status: I guess it's time to keep local (Git) repository copies of FreeBSD and OpenBSD src, since I keep looking at them frequently enough.

(I know, Git isn't the native VCS format for either, but Git is a lot easier to work with and this is for investigating things, not building or working on them.)

in reply to Joshua M. Clulow

@jmc It turns out it did and I was just behind the times in my assumptions. (I went to their Github mirror, which is now a true mirror instead of a SVN to Git conversion the way OpenBSD I think still is.)
in reply to Chris Siebenmann

Yeah I think given they have to rewrite git before they can use it, it might be a while before they switch haha
in reply to Joshua M. Clulow

Well given 9front managed to do a git rewrite and switch to it (they used mercurial before) there's at least precedent in doing so.

With 9front probably not having the option of using upstream git, while OpenBSD seems mostly concerned about infra maintainability (and security).

in reply to Haelwenn /элвэн/

I think 9front probably tolerates a lot more risk (and has a lot less critical deployments) than OpenBSD. I also received the perception that OpenBSD really only care specifically about having no software required to work on the OS shipped from outside their base repository, and they have a pretty firm policy on what licences can be used in there; hence, their work in progress Game Of Trees git reimplementation.
in reply to Joshua M. Clulow

I don't think it's licensing, git is under GPLv2 so same as gcc 4.2.1 (last version before GPLv3 relicensing) which is in OpenBSD's base along few other GNU software: cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/gnu/gcc…
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in reply to Haelwenn /элвэн/

It kinda is licensing as OpenBSD is trying to remove GPL software. (quoted from openbsd.org/policy.html)

The GNU Public License and licenses modeled on it impose the restriction that source code must be distributed or made available for all works that are derivatives of the GNU copyrighted code.

While this may superficially look like a noble strategy, it is a condition that is typically unacceptable for commercial use of software. So in practice, it usually ends up hindering free sharing and reuse of code and ideas rather than encouraging it. As a consequence, no additional software bound by the GPL terms will be considered for inclusion into the OpenBSD base system.

For historical reasons, the OpenBSD base system still includes the following GPL-licensed components: the GNU compiler collection (GCC) with supporting binutils and libraries, GNU CVS, GNU texinfo, the mkhybrid file system creation tool, and the readline library. Replacement by equivalent, more freely licensed tools is a long-term desideratum.

in reply to cow

Oh, TIL!
And even was there in 1997 when that document got created so not a reaction to GPLv3 (which I would have expected to create this kind of policy given the mess it created): cvsweb.openbsd.org/www/policy.…
in reply to luca

@luca And today I learned that FreeBSD has switched to Git from SVN (I think, based on how they list the Git repo first on their list). I am behind the (FreeBSD) times.

(I cloned the github version of their repo because that's what I'd had in my mind as the Git version of FreeBSD.)

@luca
in reply to Chris Siebenmann

I'd settle just for an unpacked copy of the tarballs. Or do you want to track changes?

Shouldn't be too hard to automate.

in reply to Norman Wilson

@oclsc I'm somewhat interested in the history of changes and I do want to get up to date copies without having to remember to look for and fetch new tarballs every so often. (I already have automation to periodically update Git repositories.)
in reply to Chris Siebenmann

Since I last paid attention, FreeBSD has moved its official source to a (self-hosted) Git repository, so I can clone and pull directly from their master version.

I'm currently resisting the temptation to keep a local copy of NetBSD source. I almost never look at it (sorry, NetBSD, you're the extra BSD), and NetBSD's official version seems to still be in CVS, although they have an official Github-hosted Git mirror.