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I just heard that a cryptography professor at Indiana University had his house raided and was fired. Don’t know much more. heraldtimesonline.com/story/ne…
in reply to Matthew Green

Xiaofeng’s profile is no longer available on IU sites. So here’s his Google Scholar. scholar.google.com/citations?u…
in reply to Matthew Green

Is it normal for a university to memory hole a former professor's pages? I thought the norm was to keep scholarship present, but possibly mark it as an inactive page.
in reply to Adam Shostack

@adamshostack This is the part that's especially concerning. We don't know what the arrest was about (and whether it was even for a crime or an immigration matter), but it's hard to imagine what reason there could be for the university to scrub its website as if he never worked there.

Either the government put pressure on them or the university was involved in whatever it was about.

in reply to Matt Blaze

@adamshostack And while there's a process for removing tenured faculty, it takes more than an afternoon to do it.
in reply to Matt Blaze

@mattblaze @adamshostack
looking through his publications... he's so... *normal* academia soc dude.

though normal in sec looks like crazy spy movie to people who don't know anything about it.

if this keeps going we'll need a disappeared database.

in reply to Matt Blaze

@mattblaze
If only they had a literature department, something like this might come to mind:

In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood...
in reply to Matt Blaze

@mattblaze @adamshostack I emailed the dean (I am on the school's advisory board) asking what's going on.
in reply to Gary McGraw

@cigitalgem @mattblaze @adamshostack Be strategic in your questions. They're *not* going to tell you what's going on, nor will they say if it's a traditional “spying for China" investigation. They may be willing to say if the situation is related to the current ICE nonsense. No idea if they'll explain why they memory-holed his web page, etc.
in reply to Steve Bellovin

@SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @adamshostack If I understand correctly, there is still no public information (from anyone) about his status or whereabouts. He could be in custody, a fugitive, kidnapped, or simply missing.
in reply to Matt Blaze

@mattblaze @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @adamshostack I have been told by the IU Luddy dean that this is not an ICE or immigration issue. So he is not in ICE custody.
in reply to Adam Shostack

@adamshostack @noplasticshower @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @spaf

If there's a criminal case associated with any of this, I can't find it in the docket for the Southern District of Indiana (or the DC or Eastern VA Districts, either, which are also venues for this sort of case).

It's possible that I missed something (damn you, PACER search), that it's not yet listed, or that it's still under seal. Or that there's no case filed.

in reply to Matt Blaze

I should also note that there seems to be essentially no confirmation of anything, and the rapid pace at which this is moving suggests quite a bit that's yet to be explained.

- Accepting a tenured job elsewhere, failure to disclose grants, etc, all can be grounds for involuntary revocation of tenure, but that process is lengthy.

- A professor voluntarily resigning to go elsewhere isn't usually kept secret.

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in reply to Matt Blaze

@adamshostack @noplasticshower @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @spaf And while accepting foreign research grants can, under some circumstances, constitute fraud (e.g., against funding agencies), that's complicated, and criminal charges would generally be accompanied by press releases, etc.

In short, while it's possible to speculate, none of the speculation matches the currently known facts particularly well.

in reply to Matt Blaze

@adamshostack @noplasticshower @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @spaf Once again, there is absolutely no publicly available information sufficient to support any conclusions here. And some of the speculation is of the form "Oh, he's of Chinese origin? I know what it must be!". In other words, racist.

Maybe he's a spy. Maybe he's a serial killer. Maybe he's suffering amnesia and wandering around in some desert. We just don't know yet.

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in reply to Matt Blaze

@mattblaze @adamshostack I’ve seen that sort of approach once or twice before in cases of egregious academic fraud - falsified research kind of stuff. That’s about it.
in reply to Matthew Green

Update to this story: I’ve now heard reports that Wang’s students have been unable to contact him since mid-March. His website was taken down on the 19th.

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in reply to Matthew Green

Some early non-Indiana coverage of this story. talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/s…

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in reply to Matthew Green

I’ve heard (from someone I trust) that his university web pages were all taken down and colleagues don’t know where he is.
in reply to Adam Shostack

@adamshostack @ljean
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He has always been a hard-working play by the rules colleague. I do not know what he is charged with. I am not confident that he is being provided full due process for a named chair by the University. I may be wrong, but I do not have the information that would provide that confidence right now.

He has been an excellent colleague for 20+ years. Being under investigation is not a crime. I have been asking for information. I do not have it. Unless he is found guilty in a court of law or I get significantly more information, I would like to say I am standing with him. But I do not know how to. So right now, I will say that I have been proud to have been his colleague for two decades. I do not even know if he is still my colleague? He is on administrative leave.

I can not say he is not getting due process - clearly there was a warrant issued. I do not know what is happening.

There is nothing more patriotic in America than demanding transparency in justice and due process, except possibly the notion of innocence until proven guilty.


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@ljean @adamshostack Your other reply is showing under your Posts and Replies tab from your profile, but not on this thread (or at least not with Mastodon « official » app—I know, I should use a different Mastodon app)
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@doctorlaura @adamshostack
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He has always been a hard-working play by the rules colleague. I do not know what he is charged with. I am not confident that he is being provided full due process for a named chair by the University. I may be wrong, but I do not have the information that would provide that confidence right now.

He has been an excellent colleague for 20+ years. Being under investigation is not a crime. I have been asking for information. I do not have it. Unless he is found guilty in a court of law or I get significantly more information, I would like to say I am standing with him. But I do not know how to. So right now, I will say that I have been proud to have been his colleague for two decades. I do not even know if he is still my colleague? He is on administrative leave.

I can not say he is not getting due process - clearly there was a warrant issued. I do not know what is happening.

There is nothing more patriotic in America than demanding transparency in justice and due process, except possibly the notion of innocence until proven guilty.


in reply to ljean

@ljean Has anyone been in contact? I hear he’s been missing for two weeks and his students can’t reach him. How does this not get noticed for two weeks???
in reply to Matthew Green

He has always been a hard-working play by the rules colleague. I do not know what he is charged with. I am not confident that he is being provided full due process for a named chair by the University. I may be wrong, but I do not have the information that would provide that confidence right now.

He has been an excellent colleague for 20+ years. Being under investigation is not a crime. I have been asking for information. I do not have it. Unless he is found guilty in a court of law or I get significantly more information, I would like to say I am standing with him. But I do not know how to. So right now, I will say that I have been proud to have been his colleague for two decades. I do not even know if he is still my colleague? He is on administrative leave.

I can not say he is not getting due process - clearly there was a warrant issued. I do not know what is happening.

There is nothing more patriotic in America than demanding transparency in justice and due process, except possibly the notion of innocence until proven guilty.